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Back Issues - October-December 2003
Welcome to the final Tea Leaf OnLine of the year. Thanks for all your wonderful contributions and letters this past year.
Remember that the Membership Renewal Deadline is coming up soon. Your personalized renewal form and return envelope were included with the last issue of Tea Leaf Readings. If you need another copy, you can download and print out this blank form below. (You will need to be able to read PDF files to view this form.) If you still need help, please email membership chair Maxine Johnson
TEA LEAF ONLINE MEMBER UPDATES
Welcome new members...
Email address changes...
Undeliverable email addresses...
(These members are being removed from the TLOL mailing list. If anyone has new addresses for them, please let us know ASAP.)
DISCUSSION TOPIC
CLUB AND CONVENTION NEWS
Membership
Current membership count is 859
Regional Meetings
Charla Warner is actively looking for a few more hosts for the coming year.
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LETTERS
Walt and Pat share their holiday traditions...
Traditions: “time honored practices”.
Our family has adhered to many practices through the years. It starts with Christmas Eve. Walt must buy one last present to the dismay of a salesclerk trying to close a shop. and often to Pat when he buys an iron or a small kitchen appliance. Our Christmas Eve menu has been the same for many years, oyster stew, seafood Newburg, rice, and broccoli. The stew is served in Tea Leaf oyster bowls.
Christmas morning we snack on sweet rolls, as we open presents and drink coffee and juice. Everyone gravitates to the same seats. After the presents are opened we eat brunch. The main dish is an egg bake made with Spam and green peppers. Fruit salad, sausages, stuffed tomatoes and Mimosas complete the menu. Afternoon is spent relaxing and getting ready for dinner.
The table is set with Tea Leaf. The plates are Adams microtex while the serving pieces are 19th Century Tea Leaf. The table looks splendid. A standing rib roast is featured at dinner. Salad, Yorkshire pudding, browned potatoes, candied carrots, Brussels sprouts, and dessert accompany it. Dessert varies often it is plum pudding with a rum sauce. Port, walnuts and cheese may be the last course. This year we might open a bottle of port we bought 21 years ago in honor of the birth of our grandson. He can legally join in the toasts.
A Christmas tradition we hope to carry on for many years is reading about and seeing pictures of the celebrations of our Tea Leaf friends.
Merry Christmas from
Pat and Walt Stevens
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Maxine sends...
Membership update. The renewals continue to arrive & we want to thank everyone for their quick response. On another note, it will save the Club some money if we don't have to mail the reminder letter, so please renew now. Dale will be changing the password for TLOL soon & those who have not renewed will not be privileged to receive it.
We will be presenting a rare & unusual segment at the convention this coming year, so we will be asking for photos of such items. There will be more information on this subject in future Readings. Our convention chair & co-chairs have a very interesting agenda planned for our 25th anniversary celebration, one you won't want to miss.
Last but not least, Gerald & I want to wish everyone Happy Holidays & a prosperous New Year.
Gerald & Maxine
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Sam and Fran echo all our sentiments...
We would like to wish everyone a very Safe, Happy, Joyful and Prosperous HOLIDAY SEASON.
Sam & Fran
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Ann Derner reports family plans...
This year our son and his girlfriend are coming from Nashville Tenn, and our daughter is coming from Southern Md. I always use my Tea Leaf on Christmas eve and Christmas dinner and other special occasions.
I have not found any Tea Leaf in recent years , but I am still hunting for a soup ladle to go with a tureen, Shaw, is my biggest Christmas wish besides, Peace on Earth good Will towards men, and Good health for all...
Ann Derner
Front Royal, VA
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Bill Durham reports travels to sunnier climes...
Bill, Joe, and I will be off to Palm Springs, CA, where we have a condo. No Tea Leaf in the condo, no antiques, just brass and glass of California Modern. The dishes we have there are the new Fiesta, to fit in with the decor of the place. The temperature there has been in the 70-80 range the past few weeks. During the month of January, I take in the Palm Springs International Film Festival, where I usually see about 40 films in an eleven day period. Bill Galaway and Joe Musser will stay for three weeks, but I will make it six weeks, coming back to the cold of Illinois the first of February. Then I hope it will not be too bad until spring comes on the 20th of March. My address there is l050 East Ramon Road, #82, Palm Springs, CA. My phone there is #760-325-2112. Give me a call if you are in the area during January.
Regards, Bill Durham
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Margaret and Fonis are also on the road...
Just to let you know—Lord willin’ and the creeks don't rise, we will be leaving Saturday for Victoria, TX, for Christmas and the rest of the Winter—contingent, of course, on how Fonis’ mother is doing. We may be coming back or commuting, but at this moment we are planning to stay. We have had snow 3 times and I am just recovering from the flu, so, after celebrating Christmas with all the kids last week, we are ready for warmer climes.
Hope your Holidays are happy and blest.
Margaret
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Kimmey Decker writes...
Yea, right, Dale--you find that beautiful soup tureen and expect now we will find the top, ladle, and underplate--it probably will turn up next week!! Anyway, I do love serving the Xmas dinner on my Tea Leaf, but now with grandchildren, dinner is at their house, a two-minute walk from my new home here near Albany, where our Regional will be next May 22. But my three other children had Thanksgiving dinner on Tea Leaf. It is such fun on Xmas day though, with three sets of grandparents, three grandchildren and all four of my kids--with a huge pile of presents--aren't we all so lucky Probably no Tea Leaf surprises for me, but that is OK--I still have quite a few pieces here!! Happy Holidays to all my Tea Leaf friends.
Kimmey
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Regarding the Edward Clarke discovery, Julie sends...
Well, I just cannot believe that somebody doesn't recognize the name of Edward Clarke. I took a plate with that mark on it to my very first convention in Rockford so I could find out about it. We had no Rare and Unusual sessions there but I asked about it and was told no one had ever heard of it. One former member offered me a considerable sum (to me it was considerable) for it but I thought if he was that interested, I might just keep it. After I became Editor, I kept looking for Edward Clarke and finally found him in Barber's book. Unfortunately, Barber misspelled his name, It does have an "e" at the end. He was English but he teamed up with James Car, James & John Moses and established the International Pottery Co. using the English and American shields to symbolize the alliance of the two. Several more pieces of Edward Clarke's have come up and I also have a cup/saucer found for me by Mary Bertram. Every time a piece came up, I used it in Readings but I guess it was forgotten by everybody but me. An unusual turn of events since I sometimes have trouble remembering what I ate for breakfast and consistently forget what Roxann told me to do that morning. Bev and Ernie Dieringer also will know about Edward Clarke since he is mentioned in one of their books and I corrected their spelling of his last name.
Juliehoo
[Julie, Thanks for your email. The Handbook doesn't mention Clarke as a Tea Leaf manufacturer, nor does the new American supplement. Whether this is an American maker -- or an English maker -- we still need to get it documented. Why do I say English? Check out Kowalsky, page 147, and see that Edward Clarke was in business in Staffordshire from 1865-1887, also using the double shield mark. DA]
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And the Dieringers also send this Clarke information...
We are curious about that new piece of Edward Clarke Ironstone that Nancy found in Nebraska last week. Edward Clarke is hard to find even in embossed white ironstone without luster. There are three Pitchers in our pitcher book of the three known shapes that are by him. Two of which have the Burslem mark. They are Round Acorn (pg. 35) and the beautifully carved Winterberry (pg. 52). If you would like we can send you the images to compare to those you get from Nancy. The other one was potted in Tunstall and is Alternate Panels / Thistle--with a thistle blossom and leaves (pg. 19). Also in Jean Wetherbee's book there is a drawing and a photo of the Winterberry shape on (pg. 117).
Hope this helps to identify her discovery. Can't wait to see the piece she found!
Ernie & Bev
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Nancy and Don Upchurch write...
Dear Friends: Don and I want to wish all of you a very merry Christmas and peace and prosperity in the New Year. May we all find that special piece of Tea Leaf we've been searching for. For me, it's a Teaberry shaving mug at a price I can afford!
Happy Antiquing - Nancy
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That's it for letters for the week. I hope everyone has a happy and healthy holiday season.
The next TLOL will be January 12. Contributions should be sent to TLOL@aol.com.
Dale
Only one more Tea Leaf OnLine for the year -- December 21. Please consider a letter to the next issue to make our Holiday issue the best yet.
TEA LEAF ONLINE MEMBER UPDATES
Welcome new members...
Email address changes...
Undeliverable email addresses...
(These members are being removed from the TLOL mailing list. If anyone has new addresses for them, please let us know ASAP.)
DISCUSSION TOPIC
CLUB AND CONVENTION NEWS
Membership
Current membership count is 859
Regional Meetings
Charla Warner is actively looking for a few more hosts for the coming year. See 2004 regional meeting schedule below and contact Charla if you are interested in hosting a regional meeting.
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LETTERS
The first letter this week comes from Julie...
Just in case I get caught up in something else, thought I'd get this in before I forget. I've waited a couple of days until I had time to sit down and really read TLOL.
Thanksgiving was an unusual one for Roxann and me, we had dinner with 19 other people. Usually there's just the two of us if Todd doesn't come. Well, this year we were invited to join Mary Oursler's daughter's family for Thanksgiving in their newly restored Victorian in Chestertown, MD. Two of Mary's sons plus spouses and children were there too. The house is wonderful. They've saved all the woodwork, doors even though the house was moved about 1/4 of a mile from its original site. Kath used Victorian colors throughout the house but, alas, there was not one piece of TL in sight. I think I'll just have to remedy that with a contribution.
was made up of several transplanted English potters and any one of them might have the training or talent to produce those wonderful dragons, or whatever, they are.
Nice to see Chris Armstrong's Tempest Brockman gravy. All I've ever found of that company are cups/saucers (well, actually, Jim Cheak found them and bought them for me) so now I know there are more pieces to be looked for. Brockman Pottery succeeded TB & CO. John Ramsey notes that Tempest Brockman of Cincinnati was one of the first Midwest potters of ironstone.
Somewhere along the line, I became "July" but that's just the month of my birth.
I have received a few messages telling me that the ATL Handbook helped identify something or other. I hope you all find a time when it helps you identify something.
Like a footbath but how many of those do you find on the shelves of antique malls or in auctions.
As for there being a death of pieces of Tea Leaf, it's a song I've been singing for a while. Until I got copies of the photos that Vic and Peggy Regnaud had in the last TLOL. I think we ought to follow them around. They seem to know where to go to find some fine TL and variants.
And. before I forget, Greetings of the Christmas Season to All, with wishes for wonderful pieces of Tea Leaf under your Christmas trees or among your Hanukkah presents. Peace and Love to you all.
Julie
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Another footbath remark from the Dieringers...
Kim, We have seen a few of those footbaths with two bands. They probably derived their shape from barrel bands. We sold a couple of White Ironstone footbaths in that same shape years ago. One was small and the other was large. The small one was marked Red Cliff (but we remember the handles as being simple/plain shapes. (Does the Tea Leaf style look like Red Cliff?) Arnold Kowalsky owns one of the White Red Cliff ones, and we will ask him what his handles are like. We can't remember if our larger one (which had no potters mark) had handles that were as elaborate as yours. Anyway, yours is rare and seems to be unique among those banded footbaths because of those handles. They look familiar but we can't remember where we have seen them (we checked the few dozen photos of footbaths we have).
Ernie & Bev Dieringer
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Suzidee and Allen write...
Congratulations to Kim Guzzi on winning the footbath. It looks like a fabulous piece and so unusual in Tea Leaf. We, also, didn't think it looked like a Ruth Sayers piece. If there is no underglaze, we would guess that it is American. But that would be just a rare! We know there are many envious TL collectors out there - including these two in Massachusetts! I hope the photos and story will make it into Readings.
We spent Thanksgiving with Carl and Virginia at their new 'cabin' in the woods of West Virginia. Can you believe, there wasn't a single piece of Tea Leaf in the cabin? Thanksgiving dinner with no TL. Fortunately, Umberto showed up for dinner, too, and brought some white ironstone platters so we could continue the Hansen tradition of Thanksgiving dinner on ironstone platters. It was fun. The cabin was an interesting experience. But we should let Carl elaborate on that. He's a better storyteller.
We stopped at Umberto's on the way back to Massachusetts. Regrettably, his warehouse has been closed down. But he still has a lot of Tea Leaf for sale. We picked up a few pieces. Stopped in a few shops on the way back, too, but nothing of interest. The pickings certainly have become slim!
Have to go out and shovel snow…winter has arrived in New England.
Suzidee & Allen
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A new Tea Leaf potter!
Got a call this week from Nancy Hinrichs who bought a piece of TL at a Nebraska auction. She was puzzled because she couldn't find Edward Clarke in any of her reference materials -- she tried the Handbook first, but no Clarke listed. She promised to take photos of the piece and the mark and mail them to Nancy inclusion in the next Update. The mark is the exact one pictured in Kowalsky's Encyclopedia, Burslem mark, 1880-1887.
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What a tale Gerald and Maxine have to tell...
A little membership update. We are receiving renewals everyday & the membership committee appreciates the prompt responses. Dolores Gentes wrote a note in her renewal that her husband, Harold, passed away Oct. 2, 2003. We extend our condolences to her & her family. Another note of interest, Al Sleeper is having hip surgery Dec. 17. We wish him well. Waldon Petersen, Karen Larson's father has had a number of health issues but is showing improvements. Father White is hoping to do a glaze fire before Christmas. He is very busy winterizing his plants & caring for his chickens & carrying out all his church obligations.
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Al and Glenda Sleeper send...
We just enjoyed Thanksgiving with all of our family here with lots of Tea Leaf on the table as well as many of you. What a blessing to be able to enjoy all of this.
It was a treat to see so many wonderful letters, and to hear from so many members, particularly at this busy time of year.
I thought I would respond to Kimmey's Thistle and Berry question and pose on of my own. I have an entire dessert set in T&B and there is not a mark on any of the pieces. The pieces appear to be very rustic, with the color and lustre being applied in a very sloppy manner. When I first saw them, before I realized that they were a recognized pattern, I thought someone had been playing around with some blanks and made their own. The question: Are all T&B this way, and why? Anyone have any information?
Hope everyone has a Happy Holiday Season. We will be tied up for a while as Al has finally been scheduled for hip replacement surgery on December 17th. He will now become a bionic man just as so many others of our members have become lately. Thank goodness for modern medicine.
Al and Glenda Sleeper
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That's it for letters for the week.
The next TLOL will be next week, December 21. Contributions should be sent to TLOL@aol.com.
Dale
TEA LEAF ONLINE MEMBER UPDATES
Welcome new members...
Email address changes...
Undeliverable email addresses...
(These members are being removed from the TLOL mailing list. If anyone has new addresses for them, please let us know ASAP.)
DISCUSSION TOPIC
CLUB AND CONVENTION NEWS
Membership
Current membership count is 859
Regional Meetings
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LETTERS
A big "what is it?" is presented to us this week by Kim Guzzi...
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Allen and Suzi also write about this piece...
We've been following the updates of the convention happenings and just got our Readings. We had purchased a convention booklet so we could drool over all the neat pieces. By all accounts we've heard so far, it was a very successful convention. Looks like the auction prices were a bit low – at least on many pieces. We really wish we could have been there for the Elsmore presentation --- one of our favorite potters.
We've attached a picture of a TL footbath that was printed in an auction folder from an auction last Tuesday in Pennsylvania. Anyone happen to be at the auction and get a bid in? Anyone recognize the potter? The auctioneer said that it was unmarked and in excellent condition including bright luster. The tea leaf doesn't look familiar so we wondered if it might be American? Anyone else have any thoughts? Would sure like to know what it sold for...
No other news from New England (unless John has some!). It's been real interesting reading TLOL recently. Hope people continue to write.
Allen & Suzi
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Checked the Classifieds lately? Ila and Milt write...
HOLIDAY GREETINGS FROM THE STEUTERMANN'S
It has been a long, long time since we have spoken.
We keep up with Tea Leaf happenings, through the Newsletter and Tea Leaf On Line. I enjoy seeing all the wonderful finds and wonder why the same people are so lucky. I know it isn't luck, you have to work hard at finding it through long hours and many miles of traveling to be so lucky. Oh, once in a while things do fall in your lap for a price.
There had to be something that prompted me to add a few lines for TLOL and it is the wonderful way of selling and purchasing TEA LEAF. We have the most convenient source and all you have to do is sit in front of your computer and view the CLASSIFIEDS. I wish more people would use this outstanding link in TLOL. I have had great success and just this week sold my entire set of Red Cliff. The party even drove from Indiana to our home in St. Charles, Missouri to pick up their purchase. We had the honor of meeting two more great Tea Leaf members. Classifieds can also be used as a want list too -- someone might have what you are looking to purchase. Give it a try.
As some of you will remember, my health was of a concern with Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus as far back as 1989. I'm happy to report that I have been in remission for about 3 years with occasional flare ups. For those of you who do not understand the disease, RA affects the joints throughout the entire body and Lupus attacks the tissues surrounding the joints. With both, you have a double whammy.
I have added more items to the CLASSIFIEDS -- take a moment to check it out. You might find something just in time for the Holidays.
Ila and Milt Steutermann
[Ila. Thanks for the endorsement for the Classifieds. It's hard for me to understand why more members don't use this FREE service to both buy and sell Tea Leaf. Thanks for encouraging our readers to give it a try! DA]
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Carol Chadwick sends...
Hello All,
Although it already seems too long since the 2003 Convention, I would like to add my comments to those of others: This was one of the most exciting, interesting and fun conventions for me in quite a while. As usual, at the top of the list is visiting with so many good friends again. The educational programs were excellent, again as usual! The club really does an exceptional job in presentations. I had the enjoyable position as "Buddy" to first-timers Frank and Amy Huber. This was a "first" for me as well and I thoroughly enjoyed getting to know this young couple and sharing some of my very limited knowledge. It is great to see some of the younger generation sharing in our love for Tea Leaf and joining the club. I feel especially lucky that my First-Timers live within 3 miles of my home in the suburbs of Minneapolis. Amy's parents, Ron and Kathy Mueller are also new members of TLCI and I had the opportunity to get to know them as well. Over Halloween weekend, Ron and Kathy were in town visiting Frank and Amy. Frank's mother Marge visited as well (all from the Milwaukee area). We had a mini-regional at my house on Saturday afternoon with a lunch served on Meakin Chelsea, of course! I had a wonderful time and enjoyed meeting Frank's delightful mother - I think we'll see Marge joining us at the 2004 convention!! The Huber's and Mueller's are completely "hooked" on Tea Leaf and their enthusiasm is contagious. Frank reminds me of a much younger Tom in his obvious interest in Tea Leaf and hunger for information. Amy said she finds him reading Grandma's Tea Leaf book at 3:00 a.m.!!!! He is already very knowledgeable and I believe he, Amy and the Muelller's will be great assets to the club membership.
Wishing a belated Happy Thanksgiving to all. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas today in the great frozen tundra!!
Carol
[PS I wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the article on White Ironstone in the November issue of Country Living magazine. There are some very nice pictures and the article includes quotes from Ernie Dieringer. Worth purchasing the magazine!]
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Walt Stevens writes...
We went to our daughters for Thanksgiving so Tea Leaf was not displayed. Our children do not collect Tea Leaf. Maybe they are waiting for us to pass our collection on. When we have holidays in Austin Tea Leaf is prominent. Besides dinner, salad and desert plates we have a chance to use covered vegetables. We do seem to have a lot of them. The table usually looks splendid. For holiday meals, we tend to use Adams Microtex 20th Century rather than using 19th Century dishes. These were our first Tea Leaf pieces and considered our good china. Unfortunately they have to be washed by hand. As a matter of fact, didn't Adams quit manufacturing TL since it wasn't dishwasher safe? The 19th Century dishes are used as our everyday pottery. We do put them in the dishwasher. I know many club members shudder at the thought but we haven't had any serious problems.
Whether you used Tea Leaf or not I hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving.
Walt Stevens
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Virginia Beakey provides this referral...
Below is the name and contact information for a museum-quality restorer who has done work for me, for Julie, for Mike and Marie and others. Craig and his father, Max, (no, not the boxer) can fix anything except the crack of dawn and a broken heart. Also in a reasonable length of time, usually 1-2 months.
BAER Specialty Shop and Museum
259 East Browning Rd.
Bellmawr, NJ 08031
(856) 931-0696
FAX (856) 931-8188
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Thanksgiving greetings and a Christmas wish from Eleanor...
I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, surrounded by family, friends and Tea Leaf treasures.
I missed Convention this year, seeing everyone as well as the lovely ironstone, the programs and displays, and of course, the auction. Granddaughter Sarah's wedding and hip replacement surgery filled my Sept. Daughters Anne, Mary and Jane and good friends and neighbors made the healing process more pleasant than I could have imagined!...So, I'll be looking forward to Convention 25, next year!
I have no new Tea Leaf to report, would loved to have been able to add two particular auction items to my collection but I'm sure they're being enjoyed in their new home or homes.. I do have much to be thankful for and this is just the perfect time to say a most sincere thank you for the many cards, messages and good wishes from Tea Leaf friends, also to Chris for sharing a Convention program (super, as always, Chris) and to July for calling and sending me a copy of her excellent American Tea Leaf program..it wasn't the same as being there , but, at least, I could feel the joy of the Convention experience!!
So, thanks to all and to Dale for TLOL, always looked forward to...and Dale, I must admit a twinge of jealousy when I saw that lovely thistle and berry Grape Octagon sauce tureen.....it's a beauty, also the Niagara!! So enjoy them, I know you will!!!
Blessings to all,
Eleanor
PS..I still have a Grape Octagon soup tureen, lustre band, on my Christmas wish list...bet you heard that before!!! Eleanor
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Traveling through Colorado, Alma has some TL for sale...
Hello from Colorado, Nancy (daughter) and I are selling a few pieces of tea leaf at the Lincoln Antique Shop in Greeley, CO. Nothing else new.
Sincerely,
Alma
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Barbara Kuhn sends...
I find very little or none as far as tea leaf goes, when I shop in this area. However, a trip through Ohio in October led to the purchase of a sauce tureen, nothing as nice as those shown, but good. No underplate or ladle of course! I has had a broken handle on the lid, but I am considering get | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||